These guys were, and continue to be screwed over in this situation. I haven’t had the stomach to tackle the whole body armor revelation from the Pentagon just yet, but this story surely kicks my appetite up a notch…in the throes of some chilly insomnia, remembering people I did wrong 15 years ago…it’s all adding up for me in a weird way this week. Medicare having to be bailed out by governors across the country, self-righteous blabery at the Alito hearings, and Jim Rice gets snubbed again.
Then there’s this story. Hard working men with families, driving 3 hours round trip to and from a guard post every day for however long, and the government stiffs them. Yea, that’s right…you put on that uniform and drive from New Hampshire to Cape Cod and back every day, because we’re not paying for a hotel room, food or anything else for that matter. Oh, and here’s some free ‘Support the Troops’ and ‘Bush/Cheney 04’ bumperstickers. Carry on suckerrrr, I mean SOLDIER!
Guardsmen seek pay for post-9/11 duty
By Kathleen Burge, Globe Staff | January 12, 2006Four Massachusetts National Guard soldiers, called to active duty after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, filed a federal lawsuit yesterday, arguing they were forced to pay for their own lodging, meals, and commuting expenses while they were protecting the state from terrorism.
Sign up for: Globe Headlines e-mail | Breaking News Alerts The lawsuit is apparently the first claim of its kind nationally, and the soldiers hope to expand their suit to include hundreds of others who have served in the Massachusetts National Guard since Sept. 11, their lawyers said. If the soldiers in all approximately 300 positions at issue were fully reimbursed for every day since Sept. 11, 2001, they would be owed an estimated $73 million, the lawyers said.
The four plaintiffs said they were never given reasons why their reimbursements — a maximum of $158 a day for food and lodging, plus travel expenses — were denied.
Sergeant Wayne R. Gutierrez of New Bedford, one of the soldiers suing for reimbursements, said his family struggled under the financial burden of paying for travel expenses and meals while he was serving at Camp Edwards in Bourne. His Guard duty cost him about $18,000 over three years, he said.
”I had to not pay one bill to pay for another,” said Gutierrez, who is married and has two children.
Major Winfield Danielson, a spokesman for the Massachusetts National Guard, said his office was reviewing the lawsuit and could not discuss it.
But he said the rules for reimbursements for soldiers are complex and depend on several factors, including what type of duty the soldiers are on, how long they are serving, and whether the government provides lodging where soldiers are working.
He said he couldn’t discuss how those factors applied to the four soldiers suing because he did not know their status.
But John Shek of Boston, the soldiers’ attorney, said he knew of no other state where similar Guard orders denying the reimbursements for post-Sept. 11 security were issued.
”People just didn’t know how to handle this mass activation of people,” said Constance A. Driscoll, a military law specialist who is advising the soldiers.
Lawyers for the soldiers say those serving in the National Guard have historically been reimbursed for reasonable expenses for travel, food, and lodging. Many soldiers traveled more than 100 miles a day to report to duty, the lawyers said. The reimbursements, they argue, are required by federal law.
The soldiers who filed the lawsuit are paid with federal money, but they work under the command of the state National Guard. Before Sept. 11, 2001, National Guard duty usually required one weekend a month and two weeks a year of training.
But after the Sept. 11 attacks, soldiers were called to guard a host of possible targets around the state, including military bases, airports, reservoirs, and nuclear power plants. Some Guard soldiers are still in those security postings.
National Guard soldiers who are sent overseas, including those sent to Iraq, are under federal command and paid by the federal government. Those who are called up to respond to natural disasters such as a blizzard are usually under state command and paid by the state.
First Lieutenant Veronica Saffo, a spokeswoman for the Vermont National Guard, said orders calling up National Guard soldiers typically lay out whether lodging and meals are provided by the government, as they are for soldiers who serve one weekend a month, she said.
”If there’s not lodging available, you need to find accommodation somewhere and you should be reimbursed for that,” said Saffo.
Soldiers are usually reimbursed for one round-trip to their base location for each weekend, or two-week training period, she said. But soldiers are not necessarily reimbursed for daily commutes to their base, she said.
Retired Captain Louis P. Tortorella of Brookline, N.H., another of the Massachusetts Guard soldiers who filed the lawsuit, said he spent about $14,600 of his own money on expenses necessary to carry out his 21-month assignment to Camp Edwards between 2001 and 2003.
He said the trip from his home to Cape Cod was 250 miles roundtrip and took 3 1/2 hours, a drive he made daily because he was refused reimbursement for lodging.
During part of his service, he was assigned to security at the Quabbin Reservoir, Boston’s main drinking water source, overseeing about 45 soldiers.
There was no place to sleep at the reservoir, and so he and other soldiers drove home after their shifts.
The lawsuit does not detail how much the other two plaintiffs — Sergeant Steven M. Littlefield of Plymouth and Joseph P. Murphy of Derry, N.H. — say they are owed.
Gutierrez said he worries that he will suffer reprisals from the National Guard for his role as a plaintiff in the lawsuit. Some soldiers have told the lawyers they were threatened with discipline by senior officers when they challenged the denials.
”I got two years left,” Gutierrez said at a press conference at Shek’s office. ”I’m just afraid they that might do something that might get me kicked out.”
Shek said that although the reimbursements are federally funded, he does not know where the money sought in the lawsuit would come from. So the lawsuit names 10 defendants, including the Massachusetts National Guard, Governor Mitt Romney, and US Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.
Charles Miller, a spokesman for the civil division of the US Department of Justice, another of the defendants named in the lawsuit, said he could not discuss it.
He has not seen any similar lawsuits from other states, he said.
My younger brother is a disabled (Navy) veteran and while he has received good treatment generally there are times when it is lacking. Veterans deserve what they were promised by the government. On this we agree Chris.
The sad thing about this article here, is these guys aren’t even veterans yet. Growing up and watching/reading about how the Vietnam War vets were treated, to me it’s always been about the government cutting corners and shaming whenever they can when it comes to veterans. Gulf War Syndrome, exposure to depleated uranium…nothing there according to the Defense Department. They don’t want to pay for it, so they insist it doesn’t exist. Meanwhile, Gulf War vets are much more likely to have autistic children and abnormal health problems throughout the rest of their lives. My dad always proposed a rationale that I considered 100% bullshit, that the government has to nickle and dime or else all the people ‘faking it’ will take advantage of the system.
Basically, your brother has to deal with insufficient treatment because someone else might be getting over. A public service announcement for what right-wing radio can do to your brain over time is what that is. I’ve heard it all on this subject…regardless, the news would rather focus on traffic reports and dead pigeons than devote the amount of time to this issue.
With this story here, and the Pentagon report confirming that more than 50% of the IED casualties could have been prevented with proper body armor, what we’re seeing is the government turning their backs on these people BEFORE they become veterans.
What are we? A tapped well? Does our government view military service in the same light as they do natural gas or corn?
I’d like to see someone provide evidence to the contrary…and good luck to whoever tries, because it’s non-existant.
Thank your brother for his service next time you see him…from everyone here at deadissue!
Thanx Chris. I support all vets and detest those who give them lip service but do not help them when they can do so.
It’s interesting that this is only happening in the liberal bastion of Massachusets. With people like John Kerry running things this really doesn’t surprise me. I would imagine there are other issues in other places in the military but I can assure you than there are these problems in the private sector as well.
It would be interesting to see if this is happening in any Republican strongholds, I bet not.
Right – it has nothing to do with liberalism or Kerry. John Kerry and Ted Kennedy represent Massachusetts in the US Congress, but have no control or power over what happens locally. That’s for the state legislature to handle.
Governor Mitt Romney is a Republican, and he WOULD NOT stiff these guys. I’m not a Romney fan, but I know him well enough (presidential aspirations) to say that he wouldn’t have done this.
The paperwork for these reimbursements are sent to the unit, and forwarded to DOD, who decides whether it gets filled or not.
Right…this is one of those things that transcends politics. A father of 3 living in New Hampshire should not be required to drive all the way to Cape Cod every day and back! You’re not from around here…but I can say from experience that Boston from 10 miles N, S and W is a parking lot every day, and once you pass the city and take Route 3 to the Cape, it’s (driving at the speed limit) at least another hour.
IT’S NOT RIGHT!!! These guys took an oath, and they’re driving the distance…but to say, “YOU HAVE TO EXCEPT A DROP IN PAY, AND COVER ALL EXPENSES” is as low as it gets.
It has nothing to do with politics…it’s a beurocratic issue. They’re owed money, and the government doesn’t want to pay.
I remember when I was stationed at Goodfellow AFB, TX. It is way off the beaten path. After DLI, we were given a week to get wfrom CA to GFAB. One poor girl flew into Odessa/Midland and took a cab to GFAB. According to MapQuest, that’s some 150 miles! She was reimbursed as far as I remember.
The point being, that sometimes the army dicks things up, and soldiers have to think on the fly. They shouldn’t be punished for that.
I don’t know what type of lodging could be found near Camp Edwards, but at $30/day (Motel 6 rates) for 630 days (21 months)- that’s nearly $19,000! $19,000 that you have to “front” the US government. That ain’t pocket change.