Christain mythology is not only dangerous it is incredibly mean spirited.
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Hmm, that doesn’t seem to square with the work I’ve done with my church for Haiti this past year, and Rwanda for the past several years.
Any time you start telling people that there is one ay into heaven you are going to get hatred and bigotry.
the other thing with christians in Africa. Africa’s two biggest problems are AIDS and over population both of which are made worse by christians telling people in Africa that condoms don’t work. Missionaries have been going to Africa for hundreds of years and the continent is worse off for it.
No, Africa’s worst 2 challenges are malaria (which would be solved by DDT) and clean drinking water. Of course, having the UN, IMF, World Bank, etc. prop up dictatorships does not help everyone else get these challenges addressed. I’m not even sure AIDS is in the Top 5.
We are supporting doctors and sending medical supplies to Haiti. We are building homes for orphans from the genocide in Rwanda. We are not telling people they are not going to heaven. You really need to pull your head out of wherever it is.
DDT I guess if you poison everybody their problems sort of go away. I think that is a lot of what plagues Africa things like DDT that caused a lot of harm in the states are passed off on unsuspecting countries to compound their problems. Especially in Rwanda where one of their most viable industrys is Ecotourism so destroying the enviroment any more than it already is would probably not be a good idea.
Unfortunately religious people bring their failed ways to desperate people in other countries.
Plus the Rwandan genocide was sixteen years ago might be a little late to build orphanages.
Plus, next door to Rhwanda in Uganda Christians are busy encouraging the execution of gays. Maybe Christians are pro-genocide
Gotta love it. Support policies that kill a kids parents and then brag about building orphanages.
a while back Nicolas Kristof of the New York Times wrote column about nuns in Africa and the good they were doing, but most the examples he gave were of the nuns going against church policy; it seems like a lot more could be done if people didn’t have to expend most there effort undoing the damage caused by official christian policy in places like Africa.
DDT doesn’t show any harmful effects for humans when applied against malaria. It is known to thin eggshells of some birds. Why would anyone misrepresent that and cause more deaths attributed to malaria?
Oh right, an atheist might do that.
THE HUMAN HEALTH EFFECTS OF DDT (DICHLORODIPHENYLTRICHLOROETHANE) AND PCBS (POLYCHLORINATED BIPHENYLS) AND AN OVERVIEW OF ORGANOCHLORINES IN PUBLIC HEALTH:
Abstract Organochlorines are a diverse group of persistent synthetic compounds, some of which are detectable in nearly everyone. Many organochlorines are endocrine disruptors or carcinogens in experimental assays. p,p?-DDE (dichlorodiphenyl- dichloroethene) and PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls) comprise the bulk of orga- nochlorine residues in human tissues. We reviewed relevant human data cited in the 1991–1995 Medline database and elsewhere. High-level exposure to selected organochlorines appears to cause abnormalities of liver function, skin (chloracne), and the nervous system. Of more general interest, however, is evidence suggesting insidious effects of background exposure. Of particular concern is the finding of neonatal hypotonia or hyporeflexia in relation to PCB exposure
and there is this one:
DDT fails as a public health tool for the same reasons it was banned as an agricultural pesticide in the 1970s. The costs are too high and impossible to control:
• Health effects: Studies show that DDT is a neurodevelopmental and reproductive toxin that is especially dangerous to infants and children. DDT has been linked to low sperm count in men, certain forms of cancer and diabetes.
• Resistance: The effectiveness of DDT continues to decline as more and mosquito populations develop resistance.
• Stockpiles: 100,000+ tons of obsolete pesticides like DDT are stockpiled in Africa with no means of disposal.
• Bioaccumulation: DDT and its breakdown product, DDE, persist for many years, travel the world, and accumulate in the global food chain.
• Dirty production: DDT production plants contaminate the environment and put local communities at risk wherever they are produced.
Communities facing malaria, which disproportionately affects poor and undernourished areas, should not have to also face the long-term health risks posed by exposure to DDT when safe and affordable solutions are available. What countries fighting malaria need is strong support for effective, safe and affordable solutions that invest in community resources over the long term.
http://www.panna.org/ddt
And this:
Data synthesis
Use restrictions have been successful in lowering human exposure to DDT, but blood concentrations of DDT and DDE are high in countries where DDT is currently being used or was more recently restricted. The recent literature shows a growing body of evidence that exposure to DDT and its breakdown product DDE may be associated with adverse health outcomes such as breast cancer, diabetes, decreased semen quality, spontaneous abortion, and impaired neurodevelopment in children.
From here
yes, but this is for people drinking it and swimming in it. carrots have nerve gas and you can die from those, too, never mind acetaminophen.
Mosquitoes live by the water, so if you want to get the mosquitoes you need to release the DDT by the water; so now not only have you poisoned the water supply you have harmed the local bird population. Are you sure you aren’t trying to kill off everyone in Africa?
No, the mosquito-borne malaria is what’s killing a million kids a year.
Are you arguing for mass outdoor spraying or just indoor use of DDT. indoor use is probably harmless, although I doubt it helps monsantos bottom line enough for most DDT proponents.
The more I read about DDT, even just using it for indoor spraying the more it seems like there are more effective ways to control for Malaria. It is sad that the obsession with discrediting the enviromental movement that was largely started because of the hazards of DDT has led to endangering Africans. Again, it seems that the religous groups trying to “help” Africans have way too much baggage to be of any real assistance.
The religious groups are not advocating for DDT. They are also doing more than anyone else.
But more of what? That is my argument with all the reporting Kristoph is doing, he keeps trying to say that the priests and nuns in Africa are heroes for not doing what the church is telling them to do, but they are only fixxing a small part of the problems caused by the church.
Once you decide that what happens in the next life is more important than this life you are not going to be able to help solve problems here on earth; especially when you need people to be misreable so that they are more receptive to the word of the lord.
The church is not propping up dictators, their militias, or advocating for genocide and rape. Sorry, blame the UN, IMF, and World Bank for keeping that up.
It seems that the church groups encouraging Uganda to pass a “kiil the gays bill” are very much advocating for genocide.
I am surprised you are against the IMF, it seems like they spend most of there time trying to encourage free-market capitalism.